Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2
Posted by 0x0000
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 27, 2016 07:30PM |
Which parts need to be redesigned? I found this one from Joar107 that looks interesting. No need for a y+brace, the clamps look like they screw directly into the bed: [forums.reprap.org]
I'm having a closer look at the alternative aluminium parts with an eye for hand cutting them. I think some parts on the XPlate in particular can be eliminated to make cutting simpler (for example, the ridges above the motor and the little hole at the tip). I don't have easy access to a laser or water jet cutter, so my trusty hacksaw or jigsaw will have to do
I'm having a closer look at the alternative aluminium parts with an eye for hand cutting them. I think some parts on the XPlate in particular can be eliminated to make cutting simpler (for example, the ridges above the motor and the little hole at the tip). I don't have easy access to a laser or water jet cutter, so my trusty hacksaw or jigsaw will have to do
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 28, 2016 12:15PM |
Just thought i'd butt in and mention that if anyone is having difficulty getting stuff made, I can now CNC mill stuff from aluminium plate.
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CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
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Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 28, 2016 01:26PM |
Its really dependant on the whole job to be done, theres no easy way to say without seeing whats needed 
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CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 29, 2016 02:08AM |
I would take each job on spec, I would need to see the details first really, I cannot see any issue with stuff like counter-sinks etc.
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Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 29, 2016 03:52AM |
Yep, my stuff gets hands-on personal treatment on the CNC
Flat 2D or 2.5D d shapes are no issue at all I think. Just need to see DXF etc so I can give options and a yay or nay to any job.
Any time, just let me know.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
Flat 2D or 2.5D d shapes are no issue at all I think. Just need to see DXF etc so I can give options and a yay or nay to any job.
Any time, just let me know.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 30, 2016 07:50AM |
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Davek0974
Yep, my stuff gets hands-on personal treatment on the CNC
Flat 2D or 2.5D d shapes are no issue at all I think. Just need to see DXF etc so I can give options and a yay or nay to any job.
Any time, just let me know.
One stupid question according to this theme,
take a look here: [reprappro.com]
What would be the costs for the bed support and optional for the y-carriage?
Would it make a difference if the outer lines would be more straight?
I hope I got the right files:
[github.com]
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Slicer: Simplify3D 4.0; sometimes CraftWare 1.14 or Cura 2.7
Delta with Duet-WiFi, FW: 1.20.1RC2; mini-sensor board by dc42 for auto-leveling
Ormerod common modifications: Mini-sensor board by dc42, aluminum X-arm, 0.4 mm nozzle E3D like, 2nd fan, Z stepper nut M5 x 15, Herringbone gears, Z-axis bearing at top, spring loaded extruder with pneumatic fitting, Y belt axis tensioner
Ormerod 2: FW: 1.19-dc42 on Duet-WiFi. own build, modifications: GT2-belts, silicone heat-bed, different motors and so on. Printed parts: bed support, (PSU holder) and Y-feet.
Ormerod 1: FW: 1.15c-dc42 on 1k Duet-Board. Modifications: Aluminium bed-support, (nearly) all parts reprinted in PLA/ ABS, and so on.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 30, 2016 11:22AM |
I will have a look later, the curves make no difference at all to a machine - straight or curved its all the same.
I would possibly alter things slightly - remove the locating lugs possibly and switch the nut-traps for threaded holes like the x-axis kits have. They only used nut-traps because you can't thread wood
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
I would possibly alter things slightly - remove the locating lugs possibly and switch the nut-traps for threaded holes like the x-axis kits have. They only used nut-traps because you can't thread wood
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 30, 2016 11:31AM |
Many thanks for the answer.
For the moment it is only theoretically, but it fits to the thread, so no stress. I printed a Y-carriage with a complete different design and a bed support consisting of three parts. However the first print was done with PLA because ABS warped. I didn't think about the screws that they may transfer heat as well so the bed support melted.
I reprinted now the bed support in ABS, but I am afraid it will melt again, but the printer is not ready yet. My printed y-carriage should be fully compatible with the original bed support so probably the top plate would be enough. That's the price if you do not buy a kit.
Slicer: Simplify3D 4.0; sometimes CraftWare 1.14 or Cura 2.7
Delta with Duet-WiFi, FW: 1.20.1RC2; mini-sensor board by dc42 for auto-leveling
Ormerod common modifications: Mini-sensor board by dc42, aluminum X-arm, 0.4 mm nozzle E3D like, 2nd fan, Z stepper nut M5 x 15, Herringbone gears, Z-axis bearing at top, spring loaded extruder with pneumatic fitting, Y belt axis tensioner
Ormerod 2: FW: 1.19-dc42 on Duet-WiFi. own build, modifications: GT2-belts, silicone heat-bed, different motors and so on. Printed parts: bed support, (PSU holder) and Y-feet.
Ormerod 1: FW: 1.15c-dc42 on 1k Duet-Board. Modifications: Aluminium bed-support, (nearly) all parts reprinted in PLA/ ABS, and so on.
For the moment it is only theoretically, but it fits to the thread, so no stress. I printed a Y-carriage with a complete different design and a bed support consisting of three parts. However the first print was done with PLA because ABS warped. I didn't think about the screws that they may transfer heat as well so the bed support melted.
I reprinted now the bed support in ABS, but I am afraid it will melt again, but the printer is not ready yet. My printed y-carriage should be fully compatible with the original bed support so probably the top plate would be enough. That's the price if you do not buy a kit.
Slicer: Simplify3D 4.0; sometimes CraftWare 1.14 or Cura 2.7
Delta with Duet-WiFi, FW: 1.20.1RC2; mini-sensor board by dc42 for auto-leveling
Ormerod common modifications: Mini-sensor board by dc42, aluminum X-arm, 0.4 mm nozzle E3D like, 2nd fan, Z stepper nut M5 x 15, Herringbone gears, Z-axis bearing at top, spring loaded extruder with pneumatic fitting, Y belt axis tensioner
Ormerod 2: FW: 1.19-dc42 on Duet-WiFi. own build, modifications: GT2-belts, silicone heat-bed, different motors and so on. Printed parts: bed support, (PSU holder) and Y-feet.
Ormerod 1: FW: 1.15c-dc42 on 1k Duet-Board. Modifications: Aluminium bed-support, (nearly) all parts reprinted in PLA/ ABS, and so on.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 30, 2016 01:33PM |
Is it possible for some kind person to get the correct 3 files from the site?
I downloaded a load of stuff from the GitHub links bet they seemed to be nothing to do with the bits in question???
Many thanks
Dave
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
I downloaded a load of stuff from the GitHub links bet they seemed to be nothing to do with the bits in question???
Many thanks
Dave
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 30, 2016 02:48PM |
Thanks Treito,
Questions -
They are made in 6mm thickness - is this needed if made from aluminium or would be better dropped to 5mm?
Is there likely to be any demand for these parts if i made the whole set as a kit with screws etc?
What is the correct dimension of the linear bearing - drawing has it as 20.9mm but that might be to make it a tight fit, my guess is 21mm - tight fits are different for metal parts
Thanks
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
Questions -
They are made in 6mm thickness - is this needed if made from aluminium or would be better dropped to 5mm?
Is there likely to be any demand for these parts if i made the whole set as a kit with screws etc?
What is the correct dimension of the linear bearing - drawing has it as 20.9mm but that might be to make it a tight fit, my guess is 21mm - tight fits are different for metal parts
Thanks
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 April 30, 2016 03:08PM |
Thanks again,
6mm is fine - gives a little more meat for little weight change, the holes would not move by my changing the thickness anyway.
At a rough guesstimate, If i were to do these, I would have to make more than one set or else the price would be simply too high.
I would therefore propose an estimate of £65 for a kit of the three parts including screws for assembly.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
6mm is fine - gives a little more meat for little weight change, the holes would not move by my changing the thickness anyway.
At a rough guesstimate, If i were to do these, I would have to make more than one set or else the price would be simply too high.
I would therefore propose an estimate of £65 for a kit of the three parts including screws for assembly.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 May 02, 2016 12:24PM |
Any interest in these parts in aluminium??
I could also do the two Mk1 Y-Ribs under the bed now if wanted
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
I could also do the two Mk1 Y-Ribs under the bed now if wanted
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 May 02, 2016 12:43PM |
I can do just the Mk2 bed support for a little more than the Mk1 as the metal is thicker so probably £20 ?
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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Re: Aluminium bed on Ormerod 2 May 02, 2016 01:27PM |
As I said, anything is pretty much possible, the main limiting factor is that i have to order a certain amount of metal so making just one of anything can be expensive but if we get some interest going then these parts are pretty easy
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
Another RS Ormerod Mk1 meets the world
Retired now but I used to make....
CNC Machined Mk1 aluminium bed support plates for the Ormerod
CNC machined X-plates and ribs for Mk1 & Mk2 Ormerods
CNC machined bed support arms for the Mk2 Ormerod.
Dual Hot-End heatsink blocks.
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