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Z Axis starts print too high

Posted by Impulse 
Z Axis starts print too high
June 14, 2015 08:01AM
HI all,

I've recently replaced my Melzi board in my printer with the 2.3 model.

Whilst the z axis can be manually set up fine, after slicing with crusa it decides to start too high. This is a part of the g-code:

;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 14.12
; Default start code
G28 ; Home extruder
G1 Z15 F100
M107 ; Turn off fan
G90 ; Absolute positioning
M82 ; Extruder in absolute mode
M190 S50
; Activate all used extruder
M104 T0 S210
G92 E0 ; Reset extruder position
; Wait for all used extruders to reach temperature
M109 T0 S210
;Layer count: 179
;LAYER:0
M107
G0 F9000 X41.851 Y75.877 Z0.300
;TYPEconfused smileyKIRT
G1 F1800 X54.809 Y75.859 E0.64648
G1 X55.766 Y75.859 E0.69422
G1 X64.109 Y75.855 E1.11046
G1 X66.290 Y75.851 E1.21927
G1 X69.712 Y75.851 E1.38999
G1 X74.456 Y75.863 E1.62667

If I set the bolded and underlined z axis to 0, its fine, but subsequent layers revert back to being too high

Does anyone know how to fix this for good?

Thanks in advance...
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 14, 2015 12:39PM
That isn't a problem . . . the first layer can't be at zero, since the nozzle would be blocked by the bed. The first layer is typically at 1x the layer height, or at the 1st layer height set in the slicer (typically higher) since there needs to be a space for the first layer to extrude into. If the nozzle is too high for your first layer, your Z axis calibration is wrong.

- Tim
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 15, 2015 08:19AM
Thanks Tim,

The nozzle is now touching the bed, can't get it any lower. Height on start up is just set up way too high. Any ideas on where or how to change it?

Thanks
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 15, 2015 01:34PM
Have you checked your steps/mm calibration? If you are running a typical .4 mm nozzle, .3 mm first layer height is pretty much exactly where you want to be, but you can change it in your slicer . . .

If your microstepping is notsetup correctly, that will cause you to be too high also . . . this really looks like a mechanical or setup problem, not bad gcode . . .

- Tim
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 15, 2015 04:55PM
Hi Tim,

Do you think it could be the firmware?

I only started to have the problem when I replaced the board.
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 15, 2015 05:49PM
If you loaded the exact same firmware image to the new board as was on the old one, then questionable that it's a firmware issue. If you didn't take the jumpers (if this board uses them) to set microstepping from the old to the new board, or one is bad or misseated, then that could do it as well.

Microstep at 8 instead of 16, and you will be at 2x the height, and so forth . . .

- Tim
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 16, 2015 01:07AM
Have you checked you z-offset? Probably not it, but worth a check!
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 20, 2015 07:19AM
I am currently having the same issue , did you figure out what it was ?
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 21, 2015 03:37AM
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widespreaddeadhead
Have you checked you z-offset? Probably not it, but worth a check!
After the issues I have atm, that would also be my guess
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 21, 2015 05:02AM
But you should see that when you manually move to Z=0 as well, no?

- Tim
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 24, 2015 09:52AM
Nope, not offset, and still having issues. I'm pretty sure it's the firmware, as it was working fine until I replaced the board.

As the firmware was already installed, what's the best way of checking it and the settings?
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 24, 2015 02:06PM
I can't say that I know that specific board, but you might try the typical gcode commands for showing config values. M115, M503, etc.

Again, this board may be different in it's firmware support, but myself, I won't run anything I don't know the contents of and that I didn't load myself . . .

- Tim

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2015 02:11PM by tadawson.
Re: Z Axis starts print too high
June 25, 2015 09:25AM
Thanks Tim, will look at it over the weekend.

josh
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