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DELTA leveling issue.

Posted by dipenjungi 
DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 06:57AM
I am Dipen, I have built a delta 3d printer at home and i am having problem with leveling, my origin(nozzle point) at (0,0,0) is staying 10mm above from the B(0,102,0),C(-88.33,-51,0) and D(88.33,-51,0) towers points and I have attached my configuration file with this post and G CODE command M665 is not working in pronterface , so please help me out here i am using marlin firmware. I am stuck there.
Attachments:
open | download - Configuration.h (27.8 KB)
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 11:52AM
Run these and report back with your M114 values.

1) G28
2) G1 Z10
3) M114

How close is the nozzle to your bed after this?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2015 11:52AM by MrMeeeseeeks.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:09PM
Hi MrMeeeseeeks, thank you for your reply after sending G1 Z10 my readings are as below mansion;

SENDING:G1 Z10
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:0.00Y:0.00Z:10.00E:0.00 Count X: 232.76Y:232.76Z:232.76



At tower C my readings are

SENDING:G0 F8000 X88.33 Y-51 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:88.33Y:-51.00Z:0.00E:0.00 Count X: 245.00Y:169.75Z:169.75



At tower B my readings are

SENDING:G0 F8000 X-88.33 Y-51 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:-88.33Y:-51.00Z:0.00E:0.00 Count X: 169.75Y:245.00Z:169.75



At tower A my readings are

SENDING:G0 F8000 X0 Y102 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:0.00Y:102.00Z:0.00E:0.00 Count X: 169.75Y:169.75Z:245.00
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:19PM
SENDING:G1 Z10
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:0.00Y:0.00Z:10.00E:0.00 Count X: 232.76Y:232.76Z:232.76

How far is your nozzle away from the bed at this point?
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:21PM
SENDING:G1 Z10
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:0.00Y:0.00Z:10.00E:0.00 Count X: 232.76Y:232.76Z:232.76

My nozzle is at exact 20mm from my bed.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:23PM
Okay. Go into your Config file and edit this value #define MANUAL_Z_HOME_POS 280 and add 10 to 280 making it 290. Re-run the first test. Report back if the nozzle is closer.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:30PM
now at the origin(0,0,0) my nozzle is touching the bed but when i move the nozzle it,s hitting the bed.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:32PM
Okay then it isn't 20mm away. In the Prointerface you need to manually move the nozzle away from the bed. Start with 1mm then .1mm. Keep a count of these values because you'll need them next. You know what the paper test is right?

You'll controll that by using this:


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2015 12:34PM by MrMeeeseeeks.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:33PM
i am getting convex print surface and the height difference between the center and end of print radius is 10mm.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:35PM
yes i know the paper test i did it
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 12:36PM
Attach a picture so I can get a better idea of what you're talking about. Is your bed bubbbled or something? How is it convex?
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 01:03PM
I was thinking the "printed" surface was convex, not the bed itself. So he was 10mm off in the center but spot on at the towers. In that case, he likely needs to adjust his print radius and repeat the paper test (assuming this means adjusting the endstops at each tower).

But I am not completely following the conversation, mostly just what popped in my head as I was reading / skimming.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 01:33PM
i have attached images with this massage, which shows at the origin my nozzle is fine but at the towers my nozzle is around -10mm.
Attachments:
open | download - IMG_6714.JPG (94.9 KB)
open | download - IMG_6717.JPG (93.8 KB)
open | download - IMG_6718 (1).JPG (98.4 KB)
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 03:18PM
Try using the steps on this blog to calibrate your printer. Essentially you adjust the endstops at tower A, then tower B, followed by tower C until they are all the same height. Next you check the height in the center of your build area, adjust the delta radius (printer radius?) of in your firmware by -2.2 the distance you are off at the center. Repeat the tower endstop adjustments and delta radius adjustment until your printer is flat.

[minow.blogspot.com]
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 03:55PM
@MrMeeeseeks and @Kurzaa will you please tell me how to find the values of z probe and and endstop... i am new to 3d printer...

// Z-Probe variables
// Start and end location values are used to deploy/retract the probe (will move from start to end and back again)
#define Z_PROBE_OFFSET {0, 10, -5.6, 0} // X, Y, Z, E distance between hotend nozzle and deployed bed leveling probe.
#define Z_PROBE_DEPLOY_START_LOCATION {20, 96, 30, 0} // X, Y, Z, E start location for z-probe deployment sequence
#define Z_PROBE_DEPLOY_END_LOCATION {5, 96, 30, 0} // X, Y, Z, E end location for z-probe deployment sequence
#define Z_PROBE_RETRACT_START_LOCATION {49, 84, 20, 0} // X, Y, Z, E start location for z-probe retract sequence
#define Z_PROBE_RETRACT_END_LOCATION {49, 84, 1, 0} // X, Y, Z, E end location for z-probe retract sequence

#define AUTOLEVEL_GRID 24 // Distance between autolevel Z probing points, should be less than print surface radius/3.
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 04:40PM
when i did paper test these value i got now i don't know how to correct this,

X tower paper test value
X:88.33Y:-51.00Z:0.00E:0.00 Count X: 245.00Y:169.75Z:169.75

Y tower paper test value
X:-88.33Y:-51.00Z:-2.30E:0.00 Count X: 167.44Y:242.68Z:167.43

Z tower paper test value
X:0.00Y:100.00Z:-0.40E:0.00 Count X: 171.13Y:171.13Z:244.59

ORIGIN paper test valu
X:0.00Y:0.00Z:-10.30E:0.00 Count X: 212.49Y:212.49Z:212.49
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 04:46PM
Quote
dipenjungi
when i did paper test these value i got now i don't know how to correct this,

X tower paper test value
X:88.33Y:-51.00Z:0.00E:0.00 Count X: 245.00Y:169.75Z:169.75

Y tower paper test value
X:-88.33Y:-51.00Z:-2.30E:0.00 Count X: 167.44Y:242.68Z:167.43

Z tower paper test value
X:0.00Y:100.00Z:-0.40E:0.00 Count X: 171.13Y:171.13Z:244.59

ORIGIN paper test valu
X:0.00Y:0.00Z:-10.30E:0.00 Count X: 212.49Y:212.49Z:212.49

Here is a good video on how to calibrate, it deals with the issue you have (delta_radius): [www.youtube.com]

Here is also a good site covering a bit more for calibration: [delta-calibration.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com]
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 04:51PM
@Koenig...thank you for you reply...
i had tried to send M665 but this command is not working, its showing only "SENDING..."
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 13, 2015 05:55PM
@dipenjungi

Run M501 that shows all the Gcode commands that store values in EEPROM.
If it doesn't show M666 in the list, you need to install Marlin firmware that supports M666.

>>> M501
SENDING:M501
echoconfused smileytored settings retrieved
echoconfused smileyteps per unit:
echo:  M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z100.00 E443.09
echo:Maximum feedrates (mm/s):
echo:  M203 X200.00 Y200.00 Z200.00 E200.00
echo:Maximum Acceleration (mm/s2):
echo:  M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E9000
echo:Acceleration: S=acceleration, T=retract acceleration
echo:  M204 S500.00 T4000.00
echo:Advanced variables: S=Min feedrate (mm/s), T=Min travel feedrate (mm/s), B=minimum segment time (ms), X=maximum XY jerk (mm/s),  Z=maximum Z jerk (mm/s),  E=maximum E jerk (mm/s)
echo:  M205 S0.00 T0.00 B20000 X20.00 Z20.00 E20.00
echo:Home offset (mm):
echo:  M206 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
echo:Endstop adjustment (mm):
echo:  M666 X-5.65 Y-6.70 Z-6.60
echogrinning smileyelta Geometry adjustment:
echo:  M666 A0.00 B0.00 C0.00 E0.00 F0.00 G0.00 R89.50 D222.87 H177.20 P0.00
echotongue sticking out smileyID settings:
echo:   M301 P21.28 I2.37 D47.76
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 14, 2015 04:44AM
@janpenguin...

when i gives command M501, pronterface not showing me the command M666..it's shows as below...


>>> m501
SENDING:M501
echoconfused smileytored settings retreived:
echoconfused smileyteps per unit:
echo: M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E120.00
echo:Maximum feedrates (mm/s):
echo: M203 X380.00 Y380.00 Z380.00 E29.00
echo:Maximum Acceleration (mm/s2):
echo: M201 X500 Y500 Z500 E380
echo:Acceleration: S=acceleration, T=retract acceleration
echo: M204 S380.00 T380.00
echo:Advanced variables: S=Min feedrate (mm/s), T=Min travel feedrate (mm/s), B=minimum segment time (ms), X=maximum xY jerk (mm/s), Z=maximum Z jerk (mm/s)
echo: M205 S0.00 T0.00 B20000 X20.00 Z20.00 E15.00
echo:Home offset (mm):
echo: M206 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
echotongue sticking out smileyID settings:
echo: M301 P22.00 I1.38 D87.57
Re: DELTA leveling issue.
August 14, 2015 08:19AM
when i run command G29, it's shows me below result..

>>> g29
SENDING:G29
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
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