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RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released

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RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 29, 2013 06:52AM
Hi Everyone,

My 3DR Delta printer is now released, the design model files and source, images etc. can be found here on GitHub

An initial post about 3DR is available on my Blog here

More posts will follow to show construction, setup and use etc.

Please let me know if you decide to build one,

And let me know if you have any questions.

Many thanks,

Rich.






[richrap.blogspot.com]
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 29, 2013 07:20PM
That is a work of art. If you do red, green, and yellow corners and a blue hub then you can get on a Chrome commercial.
woo
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 29, 2013 10:02PM
very nice design! can you please tell me how much plastic is needed to print one?

im currently on job, dont have any sliciung software, and curiosity is a bitch grinning smiley
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 30, 2013 10:15PM
Would it be difficault to adapt it to use square aluminium profiles insteadt of the t-slot ones?
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 31, 2013 01:16AM
Yes, it should be possible to adapt for almost any type of rigid vertical frame. It's only been released a few days and already people are doing just that.

Nicolas Arias is building a version with square 20mm x 20mm Aluminium tubes instead of the T-slot - Take a look on his G+ Page here -





As for how much plastic, About 350g I expect, depending on fill level.


[richrap.blogspot.com]
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 31, 2013 01:55AM
Hello Rich, I watched the video and followed your blog on this project and I like the design very much, so I going to build one.
I is a real evolutionary design , becuase it uses far less parts, screws, no timing belts and many mechanical functions have been integrated into complex parts.
I have those aluminum profiley "laying around" in my workshop from a 10 year old machine project that I gave up , so that will give them a second life.

1. I wonder wheter you could not also print them out - at least in 2 or 3 sections which will then be put togehter just with some 6-8mm tube inside to align them. Maybed even the "belts" could run inside them.

2.One thought is on the base, and if that is heavy enought to avoid tipping if the bot runs at a higher acc. or someone hits the table.

3.In order to further reduce, parts cost and get a higher rate of self replicating: Why not have the base with snap-in constructions rather than using screws?

I think your design has the potential for the first really fully printable frame construction
.
And yes, I want to build myself one :-) I am a bit older than most here and I am just trying to get my way around to find out where I can get the parts printed out and how. I worked in the electronic industry (SMD assmbly machines) for 20 years and a hexapos was always a very expensive dream for an egineer. I am amazed how far this project has come now and I like your design because of the simplycity, yet the effectiveness.
But I must tell you: Those red & blue colors hurt my eyes ;-)
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
July 31, 2013 11:44PM
where can i get those universal joints?....i cant find them on the interwebs..

sorry for grammar...im on a mobile device.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 04, 2013 01:57PM
@evamvid I imagine the best place to find them is any RC heli shop, as linkages just like that are used on pretty much all heli's. I found some on ebay but way overpriced, so bought some trex heli ones which were much cheaper. Hopefully they might work, but won't know until they turn up.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 04, 2013 06:55PM
I'm printing these parts on an Ultimaker in PLA. I'll weigh them as I print and update this post. So far I've printed :

1.2mm perimeter/top/bottom, .235 layer height, 30% infill (sliced with the wrong settings but came out fine)
3DR_Top_cover_cap_V2_001_RTP x3 = 65g
3DR_Bottom_Motor_Mount_V2_001_RTP x3 = 250g
3DR_Bottom_Boss_V2_001_RTP x1 = 22g
3DR_Top_Boss_V2_001_RTP = 6g

These parts would use about 20-30% less plastic if I used my normal settings which are: .9mm perimeter, .54mm top/bottom, .135 layer height, 35% infill (my usual settings for nearly everything)
These will all be sliced and printed at those settings, they are still pending though, I will update as they are printed :

3DR_Spool_V2_001_RTP x3 = 10g
3DR_Jhead_groove_mount_V2_001_PUSHFIT_RTP x1 = 7g
3DR_micro_platform_V2_001_RTP x1 = 6g
3DR_Print_Bed_catch_V2_001_RTP x3 = 7g
3DR_Carriage_V2_001_for_LM6UU_RTP x3 =
3DR_Extruder_body_V2_Test_001_RTP x1 =
RichRap_Greg_style_Guidler_Modified_with_grab_lever_For_1_RTP x1 =
herringbone-gear-large x1 =
herringbone-gear-small x1 =

I ran into some slicing issues with the 3DR_Top_Electronics_Mount_V2_001_RTP part as it looks like there are some holes in the STL around z=1.5mm, I sent richrap a PM about it.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2013 11:43AM by Nyarlathotep.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 07, 2013 11:33PM
I fixed some mesh errors and adjusted the interior area around the endstop mount to make the Top Electronics Mount printable.
Attachments:
open | download - 3DRTopElectronicsMountV2001_fixed.stl (291.7 KB)
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 01:14AM
Have you printed the three top electronics mount parts? It would be great if you could post the weight :-)
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 01:58AM
So all bits have arrived, and only a couple of parts left to print (top & bottom hub). My F5 button is really starting to look heavily worn now, can't wait for Part 2-5 as everything is nearly ready to go and I'm getting a little too excited about my no.2 machine.
woo
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 03:12AM
i have borrowed pulleys for motors grinning smiley
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 09:53AM
dapa79 Wrote:
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> Have you printed the three top electronics mount
> parts? It would be great if you could post the
> weight :-)


I printed 2 out of 3 top electronics mount, but I didn't weigh them yet and I'm travelling now and won't get the 3rd one printed until the middle of next week. I have all the other parts printed as well, except the rod joint adapters as as I will likely need to redesign these parts to fit & I'm still waiting on my ball ends to arrive so I can do that.
I have to collect a few vitamins yet but expect to start assembling next weekend. The major parts I am missing are an LCD, hotend, bowden tube, and hobbed bolt for the extruder.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 11:36AM
Do you have any estimate of how long it would take to print all parts?
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 01:03PM
Hi, it depends on the your machine, I made up 11 plates and If I remember correctly I did it over 7 evenings and a weekend.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 01:06PM
Depends on your build volume, which infill you use, infill %, number of perimeters, layer height, extrusion width, etc.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 01:48PM
....... and how long it takes you to get your first reel of **#@# PLA to stick reliably to the bed, only top and bottom big pieces (PLA) left to do.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2013 01:50PM by Masnachu.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 03:06PM
Do you know the hair spray trick for PLA? Aqua Net Hairspray

I can't hardly get my prints up it holds so well.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 09, 2013 06:06PM
PVA glue or glue stick too. I sliced my knuckle open last week prying one of the bottom pieces off my glue stick covered bed.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 10, 2013 03:14AM
Hi thanks for the replies, I can get PLA to stick ok initially, it's stopping the
stuff lifting mid print (even with brims) that’s the main problem.

Haven't tried hairspray with PLA yet, I was using Wilko's "Extra firm hold", didn't
work with ABS on its own, but I did find that I could get an extra days printing out
of tired kapton using hairspray on it. Will do a test with PLA today. Thanks for the
link, I will keep a look out for that brand and try it.

PVA (applied on 80 Degree C bed) , was experimenting with that yesterday (didn't
work on ABS at all when I tried before). I did manage to get a PLA print to stick
well yesterday (stacked cube test with no brim), problem is I can only get 1 print
out of it, after that everything lifts off after 4-5 layers. Tried fresh PVA solution
on top of old, no go. looks like I will have to clean the glass between each print,
which is ok on bigger prints, pain when doing small calibration/test pieces though.
Will do some more experimenting today.

PVA glue I've been using is Everbuild "Universal PVA Bond"
[www.bicester-upvcdirect.com]

From what I've seen, a lot of people reporting success using PVA are using Elmer's
"Glue all" with heated bed, I haven't bought any to test because my main focus for
PLA will be cold bed printing ready for the 3DR.

Print stick, (Wilko's "Quick Stick Glue" not UHU there wasn't any in the shops)
again I tried that with ABS, it didn’t work (I did put it on top of PVA, which stuck
an ABS print, but there was fizzing going on where plastic meets print stick/PVA ,
so I didn’t pursue it lol) Will try it with PLA today (on clean glass)

Lemon Juice ("Tesco" bottle of, applied at 80C bed).
So far this as worked the most consistently (printed top and bottom 3DR centre
boss pieces ok on it, took a 7.5mm brim to do it though, Top cover cap started to
lift 30% way in with 7.5mm brim, will try 10mm when I try next (brims are getting
excessive now). Lemon Juice also seems to keep working, just reapply a few drops
between prints ay 80C and "stipple" it in. Stays sticky when cold though, makes bit
of a mess ( I imagine sugared water is similar, haven’t tried it yet).

Haven't really tried PLA on heated Kapton yet (I did but kapton was getting a bit
tired form ABS printing, that could be why it didn't work), 3M blue scotch should be
here in a few days, that will be my main focus for PLA , printing on a cold bed,
since that's what the 3DR uses.

I'll do some more experimenting today, see how that goes before attempting any of
those big top/bottom pieces again.

Cheers.

Edit : Forgot to add, that I've tried using a cooling fan (different speeds & distances etc) for PLA, just seems to make the lifting problem worse.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/10/2013 03:22AM by Masnachu.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 10, 2013 06:15AM
How hot are you running your bed during a print? 80C is probably too hot for PLA.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 10, 2013 07:37AM
I print on 60 degree glass and 60 degree kapton with PLA and hair spray. Verify that you have VA/Crotonates/Vinyl Neodecanoate Copolymer in your hairspray. It seems like every country has only 1 major brand that is brave enough to provide a product that can make hair stronger than steel. Without that ingredient is is said not to work.

Also, I don't have to reapply hair spray every print. It can last a very long time. I haven't actually hit its limit yet. I end up touching the bed about every third print so that forces me to use some glass cleaner and then I reapply the hair spray. (Application tip: don't spray directly on the bed. Spray it on a paper towel and then wipe the area. It will keep your machine from getting crusty.)
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 13, 2013 02:37PM
The electronics top mount printed at 132g for all 3, at my slicer settings.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 18, 2013 05:31AM
Thanks for the replies.

pokey9000, yep at the time I was setting bed temp to 80C (approx 70C Glass surface temp) for the first layer, then knocking it down to 60'ish (~50C surface). It was the temp I first had success in getting the rubbish PLA to initially stick, so I stayed with it. I also experimented with about every temp possible with it, eventually I was using 1st layer bed/hotend temps that were more appropriate for ABS (Don't know what they used to pack the PLA out, there was some PLA in there, could smell it). Warping and not sticking were worse when using normal PLA temps (180-200C, 50-60C)


Nicholas thanks for ingredient tip, most of the UK extra strong hairspray contains,
Octylacrylamide/Acrylates/Butylaminoethyl Methacrylate Copolymer,

not sure if it will do the job (mine doesn't have it) , I'll experiment (I found a US gov health dept website that lists hairsprays that contain the chemical you named, 1 or 2 of the brands are sold here, I'll check if they still contain the ingredient or not)

Update.

That filament I was using would just not stick well enough to anything at any temp, PVA,Kapton,Lemon Juice,Clean Glass,Blue Tape (cold) etc etc without lifting/warping.

Yesterday morning I was having another go with PVA (same result would stick, then start to lift/warp 4-6 layers in) when my KDI filament turned up, so I swapped filament, everything else kept the same (I set hotend temp back to 180 for the new filament), the KDI stuck and stayed stuck, no lift no warp, perfect (well almost its a bugger to get off PVA lol). So the original PLA as gone back, its utter junk.

Right then, back to finishing the 3DR parts, cheers for the help guys.

Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2013 05:46AM by Masnachu.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 19, 2013 05:13AM
Finally a space saving printer to build......Thank richrap.
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 28, 2013 01:28AM
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
August 28, 2013 02:17AM
Another great job Rich!


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Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
September 15, 2013 01:22AM
Some pictures of my 3DR build (still fighting...)

[www.eventorbot.com]

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2013 01:40AM by zacbot.

video of my 3DR
Re: RepRap 3DR Delta printer Released
September 15, 2013 12:23PM
Awesome design, thanks Richrap. I have most of the BOM ordered now.

One thing that worries me: When I ordered the printable parts, I left off the list the LCD covers. I was planning on printing them myself once the 3DR is up and running. But now I realize those parts won't fit in 3DR's bed (I swear I saw the bed as 180mm, but now it says 170mm)

Is that so? Shouldn't the printer be able to replicate itself per Reprap philosophy?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2013 12:27PM by FraNtik.
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