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High Current steppers.

Posted by sheep 
High Current steppers.
February 07, 2010 02:34AM
Recently, I have become more active in the firmware department as I progress to getting my 20year old desktop CNC prepared for use as a Repstrap.

I took the old control box apart to replace the fans. Inside I found a bog standard system, which is controlled by step/dir signals. I upgraded the dos program to the demo version of Mach3.

The lead screws are 1mm pitch. There is a 45:24 tooth timing belt on the X axis.

My steppers are big monsters which are about 120CM in diameter, and require 3.5 amps. I just refurbished the control box, which uses standard step/dir signals. At issue is these only move the MM screw at a rate of 8 inches per minute. Yes I know I am mixing units. The DOS program only did inches. The calculated step rate is 27091/3 which the old program gave as 2.716

The reason I bring this up, is I was considering a firmware solution for micro-stepping based on the AtTiny25, Most of the solutions only go to 2 amps,

Probably the long term solution is to get some of the Gecko drivers, which seemed to be priced at about what the parts would cost for a DYI build.

The AtTiny25 ( 8 pin version of the chips used in the Arduino ) can directly PWM drive an H-Bridge through the 4 phased high speed PWM pins. This should handle micro-stepping. Communications is through serial interface. There is also an on die temperature sensor.

Any suggestions as if there is an cheap and easy to obtain discreet 4 amp H-Bridge design out there somewhere?

-julie
Re: High Current steppers.
February 07, 2010 12:21PM
Is there a way you could stack or connect in parallel the parts that limit you to 2 amps? Or what if you just built 2 2-amp drivers and connected them together?

To be clear: this is just brainstorming. I am by no means an electronics expert.
Re: High Current steppers.
February 07, 2010 02:15PM
There is an option to parallel the L298 outputs, At least when configured for a BLDC motor.

Connecting together silicon devices to increase power is a black art. This is why I am looking for a more proven implementation.

4 Amps is a lot of power. Unlike low current high voltage, High current low voltage can do some pretty serious damage.

-julie
Re: High Current steppers.
February 22, 2010 02:02PM
It may be worth considering using something low current off the shelf like the A4983 as stepper controller/gate driver and driving higher power FET's from it to cope with the higher current steppers.

If you google gate drivers they look remarkably similar to the lower current output stages.

There may be something I am missing though.....


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Re: High Current steppers.
March 02, 2010 08:27PM
the internal dead time and fast/slow decay modes, and the PWM too will not drive external fets properly. They will spend lots of time with floating gates and probably explode from being in linear zone while carrying current, or sending themselves into destructive oscillation from feedback effects.

Allegro do make a stepper controller that uses external fets, however reading about it on cnczone tells me that it is speed limited especially at low duty cycles because of the fixed dead-time logic. read up, make your own decision on this chip.


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Re: High Current steppers.
March 03, 2010 03:46PM
Yup already have done and ordered some toshiba stepper driver chips (3A) and a better package to heatsink


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Re: High Current steppers.
March 06, 2010 07:40PM
Tosh stepper chips have arrived now.

Hopefully I will get to have a play with them some time soon.

TB6560AHAHQ 3.5A 40v peak


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